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600-Year-Old American Indian Historical Account Has Old Norse Words
The Guard- blogspot ^ | 3-15-2007 | Larry Stroud

Posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:36 PM PST by blam

600-Year-Old American Indian Historical Account Has Old Norse Words

By Larry Stroud, Guard Associate Editor
Published on Thursday March 15, 2007

Vikings and Algonquins. The first American multi-culturalists?

BIG BAY, Mich. — Two experts on ancient America may have solved not only the mysterious disappearance of Norse from the Western Settlement of Greenland in the 1300s, but also are deciphering Delaware (Lenape) Indian history, which they’re finding is written in the Old Norse language.

The history tells how some of the Delaware’s ancestors migrated west to America across a frozen sea and intermarried with the Delaware and other Algonquin Indians. Myron Paine, 72, and Frode Th. Omdahl, 51, met on the Internet six years ago when they were each looking for a rare book, “The Viking and the Red Man,” written by the late Reider T. Sherwin. Together they found copies of all eight volumes with the same name, published mostly in the 1940s.

Using Sherwin as a reference, they found that much of the Algonquin language consists of Old Norse, including Old Norse root words often strung together to make new words that were adopted by Algonquin speakers.

Paine and Omdahl were featured speakers on “Norse Tracks in America” at the first Ancient American Artifact Preservation Foundation annual conference in Big Bay, Mich. in 2005. Paine spoke again at the ’06 conference.

Paine is a lifelong student of history who has a doctorate in agriculture engineering. He taught in two universities, and served as a state and regional Extension engineer covering 10 Great Plains states.

He later worked as an electrical engineer for three aviation companies, a career that included being a primary writer of test reports for the certification of the Cessna 208 aircraft, the Caravan. He grew up as a farm boy in South Dakota, where the “white faces among the Mandan Indians” intrigued him.

Omdahl is a native of Stavanger, Norway who now lives in Asker in the same country. He is educated in journalism, graphic design and marketing communications. A lifelong student of history and an eager genealogist, Omdahl got interested in Norwegian emigration to America.

Researching his family history, he also caught interest in “the first wave” of Norwegian emigrants to America, 800 years before the next “wave.” That the Algonquin Indian languages have many words identical to Old Norse is not a new discovery, as evidenced in books other than Sherwin’s, but the application Paine and Omdahl are using is new. The two are using Sherwin’s eight volumes to decipher the Lenape’s ancient picture stick writing, the Walam Olum. For each picture stick, Lenape historians recited or sang a verse.

“The memory verses of the Walam Olum were created by people speaking Old Norse,” Paine said. “The Walam Olum is a 600-year-old American history composed of pictographs and memory verses. The history tells of fighting the mound builders, Iroquois, and of the arrival of white men.

“Our efforts to decipher the Walam Olum have found a striking correlation of the Walam Olum words to Old Norse phrases,” Paine said. “This relationship strongly supports the hypothesis that Old Norse speakers visited eastern ancient North America and left very tangible evidence of their presence.”

“The Algonquin language is Old Norse,” Sherwin wrote in the preface of his Vol. 4. Sherwin, a native of Norway before he moved to the U.S., began comparing the languages because he heard a New England place name before he saw it in print, and was told it was of American Indian origin.

Sherwin disputed this because he recognized the word as one he had long known — and the meaning was the same. Finding a New England map, Sherwin, familiar with dialectical Norwegian, which is much closer to the Old Norse language than literary Norwegian, immediately recognized dozens of place names as Old Norse. They had the same meanings in both Algonquin and Old Norse.

Michigan and Milwaukee are two examples from his books. Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

In Old Norse, “midh” means “middle,” or “lying in the middle”: and “sjoe-kum” or “sjoe-kumme” means “sea basin” or “sea reservoir.”

“Lake Michigan lies midway between Lake Huron and Lake Superior, hence the translation would be correct,” Sherwin wrote.

Milwaukee, in Old Norse, is “milde aak(r)e,” meaning “the pleasant land” — an almost perfect match for the pronunciation and meaning in Algonquin, Sherwin said. Omdahl points out that in old Norwegian languages and dialects, “‘aa’ is pronounced as something between the ‘a’ in ‘war’ and the ‘o’ in ‘horse.’”

“Today it is one of the typical Scandinavian letters — an ‘a’ with a tiny ring over it,” Omdahl said.

“Sherwin’s books have been overlooked because of World War II and because the last six of Sherwin’s books were self published, so only a few books went into libraries,” Paine said. “An original catalog error shelved the books in the rarely used dictionary section of libraries instead of in the linguistic section where they belong.”

“After 16 generations of memorization, the consistency of the recorded sounds is remarkable,” Paine said. “This provides strong evidence that the Walam Olum is an authentic historical document that was first created by people who spoke Old Norse — or a language strongly influenced by Old Norse.

“The last seven verses in chapter 3 of the Walam Olum describe the Norse people of Greenland walking to America on the ice,” Paine said.

The verses describe a mass of people walking to the west to a better land, across the “slippery water, the stone hard water.” The migration corresponds with the “Little Ice Age.”

“I invite everyone to view the evidence online at www.frozentrail.org,” Paine said. Respected author Ida Jane Gallagher of Mount Pleasant, S.C., who spent 28 years working beside authoritative professionals researching ancient America — with much of that work in New England — also compares Sherwin’s Algonquian and Old Norse words and confirms Norse migrations in her book, “Contact With Ancient America,” co-authored with Warren D. Dexter andpublished in 2004.


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1 posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:44 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; shamusotoole
Thanks to FReeper Shamusotoole for this article above.

Tracing The Genes

MitochondrialDNA (mtDNA) haplogroup testing led to the surprising hypothesis that some of the first Americans came from Europe thousands of years ago.

2 posted on 03/06/2011 12:49:35 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Fascinating! We are ALL related. LOL The Scots-Irish had Viking/Norse ancestors as well.


3 posted on 03/06/2011 12:50:03 PM PST by madison10
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To: blam

thanks for posting. very interesting


4 posted on 03/06/2011 1:00:45 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: blam

Fascinating. Thanks for the interesting post.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 1:01:57 PM PST by Huck (Mrs. Palin = Christine O'Donnell)
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To: madison10
"The Scots-Irish had Viking/Norse ancestors as well. "

I am one of those, yDNA R1b and mtDNA 'V'.
I could have been a Viking who went to Ireland and stayed.
My grandmother is related (U5a DNA) to 9,000 year old Cheddar Man

6 posted on 03/06/2011 1:05:45 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Maybe how the blue eye gene came to be in Native Americans?


7 posted on 03/06/2011 1:09:29 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
"Maybe how the blue eye gene came to be in Native Americans?

Mandans?

I've read that Thomas Jefferson ordered Lewis & Clark not to mention one word about light-skinned, blue eyed Indians in their written scouting report to him.
His concern was that some other European power would use that 'hook' to claim those areas that were not yet part of the USA. So....

8 posted on 03/06/2011 1:15:14 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Very interesting ! Thanks.


9 posted on 03/06/2011 1:15:56 PM PST by Viiksitimali
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To: blam
Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

Wisconsin must be Algonquin/Old Norse for "land of no wampum"...

10 posted on 03/06/2011 1:17:02 PM PST by mikrofon (Norse by Norse-West)
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To: Rebelbase
(Prince) Madoc In America
11 posted on 03/06/2011 1:17:21 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
“Our efforts to decipher the Walam Olum have found a striking correlation of the Walam Olum words to Old Norse phrases

Additional evidence supporting this theory was found in a recently translated Walam Olum text which read, in part, "What's in your wallet?"

12 posted on 03/06/2011 1:17:28 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: blam

Wonder how The Orthodoxy in science are taking this?


13 posted on 03/06/2011 1:19:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: GreenHornet

Maybe they walked west looking for Romans to kill.


14 posted on 03/06/2011 1:21:05 PM PST by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: blam

There’s record of blue eyed Natives east of the Cherokee regions. The largest tribe in the Piedmont spoke Algonquin. There is some speculation that the failed colony at Roanoke Island provided a blue eyed gene.


15 posted on 03/06/2011 1:21:32 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
When the Pilgrims arrived, they were stumpy little fellows topping out at 5'7". Imagine their shock on meeting fair-skinned 6'6" natives! The squaws towered over Miles Standish.

There is no mention of the Injuns chowing down on Lutefisk and washing it down with akvavit, so I am not believing this Norvegian ancestry ting. Could be a ploy to get a casino in Oslo.

16 posted on 03/06/2011 1:26:53 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Odd, but I never had to ask, "Who, or what exactly is Dwight Eisenhower?")
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To: blam; Huck; madison10; vbmoneyspender; SunkenCiv; shamusotoole
The Walum Olem has always been of great interest to a small group devoted to finding out who the Europeans behind it might have been.

I didn't know this guy had done an 8 volume piece on it, but he undoubtedly brought in all the related materials he could find.

I have a single volume of a book written by a fellow who knew the writer, and probably Myron Payne ~ and I know that Mr. Cline, a family friend, was probably also in that circle (he worked with Indians in various places to reclaim their cultural heritage/baggage).

The little bit of the material I've ever seen is fairly readable ~ provided you have a guide to American Indian sign language (which shows up in it as well) and some experience with Old West Gothic (including that quaint language used in England before the Normans conquered the place in 1066).

So Frode Th. Omdahl, from Stavanger, the Viking's very jumping off place cracked the code.

I wonder if he also earlier studied American Indian Sign Language and if the pictographs matched those standards for ideographic representations.

BTW, the Walum Olem has been considered made-up BS since it was discovered ~ a genuine fake ~ but yet, it was always pretty obvious that it was trying to convey meaning and information. The imprint of actual language is in there. It's not just an apparent jumble of clan structures and totems.

17 posted on 03/06/2011 1:28:20 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: blam
Michigan and Milwaukee are two examples from his books. Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

In Old Norse, “midh” means “middle,” or “lying in the middle”: and “sjoe-kum” or “sjoe-kumme” means “sea basin” or “sea reservoir.”

“Lake Michigan lies midway between Lake Huron and Lake Superior, hence the translation would be correct,” Sherwin wrote.


I think this was a bit garbled. It makes more sense to say that Michigan is the land between Lake Huron and Lake Michigan so that the translation of land "lying in the middle" of "sea basins" would be correct.
18 posted on 03/06/2011 1:28:39 PM PST by aruanan
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To: blam

Didn’t some of them also have red hair?


19 posted on 03/06/2011 1:30:20 PM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Rebelbase

No proof as of yet any American Indian in my family but my ancestors look like American Indian. All my granddads brothers and sisters had dark skin and dark eyes. My granddad has light skin and blue eyes. He had 12 brothers and sisters. So 1 in 13 ended up with blue eyes light skin in his family. Interesting.....


20 posted on 03/06/2011 1:32:34 PM PST by fallingwater
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